for those who have heard this comment, check out aron ra's great site.. http://www.aronra.com/.
Theory of relativity is just a theory, and, just as the theory of evolution, has been proven true time and time again. Religious fundamentalists, that is creationists, have convictons about creation that are disproven time and time again. Which do I keep? Far and away I keep the theory with proofs.
NOTE: Evolution has been proven to have happenned. How exactly? That's another story that is still being debated.
true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.
atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.
http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).
Rather ironic that atheists in general don't proselytize, but get more converts lately than religious people do. If I am not mistaken the Pew research shows that the biggest growth is in people who don't want to be associated with organized religion (I am sure plenty of atheists in this group)
so manipulaitve.
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http://www.printcentralandsigns.com/jwtalks/covisits/sinutko%20charles%20-%20is%20it%20proper%20to%20have%20doubts.mp3.
Ann
Two different talks, two different guys. Similar names though. I can't remember the other guy
i am trying to put together the worst of 2013. the first quote that comes to mind is possibly your "favorite" too.
do you have any other disturbing quotes from the publications in the wt?.
elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) the most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of the assyrian is that of strengthening our faith in god and helping our brothers to do the same.
“ la organización de Jehová nos dirá qué hacer . Todos deberemos obedecer sus instrucciones, aunque nos parezcan extrañas, ilógicas o no estemos de acuerdo con ellas. Solo nos salvaremos si las obedecemos. ” (Atalaya en lenguaje sencillo Nov 2013, p. 20) .
I think the message in the Watchtower in Spanish in simple language is even more creepy (above). I will translate as closely to the text as I can:
Jehovah's organization will tell us what to do. All of us must obey His instructions, even if they they seem weird, not logical, or even if we don't agree with them. We will be saved only if we obey them (Watchtower simple language Nov. 2013, p.20)
"Can't we all just get along" A sage from L.A.
ive given this new arrangement a lot of detailed thought and how greatly it benefits the wt and how much it puts a strain on each congregation.. first, let me explain how the old arrangement worked.. you had 3 donation boxes in each kingdom hall.
one for worldwide work, one for kingdom hall construction and one for congregation contributions.. the congregation contribution box accounted for about 60-75% of all donations.
the world wide work box probably accounted for 20-30% and the kingdom hall construction for about 5% of the contributions.
Now the elders understand more specifically the purpose of "do what we tell you to do, whether it makes sense or not" (paraphrasing). Cognitive disonance at a peak now.
just to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .
If you have the stomach for that, go for another 10 years. I hope something good can come out of it for the sheep.
the jw date-worshipped memorial has just completed its bleak worldwide commemoration.
that wasn't a dust cloud you saw; it was a millionfold hearts limply beating themselves into another round of great tribulation expectations.
i was knocked into a deep, deep sleep by the imagined experience of being at several thousand consecutive kingdom halls as the platformed drones spat forth the predictable sludge that, once released, hits and stains white clothing and bleach is useless.. we know that memorial attendance worldwide has dipped for two consecutive years since 2011 when it reached a high of 19,374,737 and for the promised land, obama's usa, the all time memorial attendance high was also 2011 when it hit over 2.5million (2,563,518) but shrunk in shame back to 2,502,055 in 2012 and spluttered upwards a handful or two to 2,504,114 last year.. so, what was attendance at the date-obsessed bore-fest this year in your neck of the woods?
attendance at my wife's congo was twice the publisher numbers 180/90. That's below average. Not helping to break any record
If they hit 20 million is because they are lying.
the just of the account, two people enter a city and can not .
find lodging.
an old man invite them to stay with him (levite).. this is so weird, all the men of the city come to have sex with.
The sons and daughters of the atheists are whole too. I would venture to say that they are whole and they have been whole since birth. I guess that proves there's no God. Silly declarations elicit more silly declarations.
the just of the account, two people enter a city and can not .
find lodging.
an old man invite them to stay with him (levite).. this is so weird, all the men of the city come to have sex with.
Bella 15
Blaming God doesn't sound like an atheist, sounds more like a disaffected believer. Atheist never blame God, they don't believe in that. When people in this forum attack the Bible, they are not attacking God, they are attacking the people who created that specific type of God, and by extension the people who believe in that type of God.
By the way, it's a lot easier to attack the God of the O.T. In fact some early christians believe the God of the O.T. was a bad God. The God of the N.T. is not that great either, but at least doesn't commit genocide everytime he throws a tantrum. He's a bit weird though. Save humanity by sending your own Son to suffer a humiliating death. WTF. that guy... Paul... was really imaginative. Not even JW's today could have pulled that off
